May 19, 2020
Double Snack with Kitty!

In this episode of Snack Size, Minneapolis based drag queen Lala Luzious talks with her local drag performer friend about how developing characters can help to reveal your “secret self” and how this realization helps to chase your goals and...
In this episode of Snack Size, Minneapolis based drag queen Lala Luzious talks with her local drag performer friend about how developing characters can help to reveal your “secret self” and how this realization helps to chase your goals and dreams. Check out Kitty's Podcast here (you will love it!): https://anchor.fm/magicmf/episodes/Why-Magic-MF-tho-e8ot41 Need another snack? Head on over to www.snacksizepodcast.com If you are a new listener to Snack Size, we would love to hear from you! Don’t be afraid to say hello at lala@snacksizepodcast.com Follow Snack Size: The Podcast on Twitter: @podcast_snack Follow Lala on Instagram: @lalaluzious _____________ Intro and Interlude Music for "Snack Size" is Lioness (Instrumental) by DayFox https://soundcloud.com/dayfox
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Hey, what's up world? Welcome
to snack size, the podcast that will
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drag you into your most fabulous life. I'm your host, La La Luscious,
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also known as the snack of the
twin cities. I decided for myself
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that I can be whatever I want
to be. So I decided to be
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a drag queen, and if I
can live my dreams, you can to.
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The time has come to believing yourself
enough to turn your ideas into more
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than mere words, and, no
matter what you are doing in life or
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where you want to go, I
want to help you get there fabulously.
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Our double snack episode start snaw hey
snacks. We are on episode three of
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snack size and today I'm doing my
very first double snack. Double snack episodes
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are a little longer than my usual
episodes, but I will be bringing on
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special guests for this double snack.
I want you to hear the perspective of
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another drag performer who I perform within
the twin cities. She performs as a
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drag king as well as a drag
diva. A drag diva in the drag
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community is a female performance artist who
amplifies her femininity to the utmost level and
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creates an illusion of grandeur very similar
to that of a drag queen. In
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addition to drag this guess has an
extensive performing resume which includes appearances with big
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name bands, dance troops, circus
caravans and traveling tours. So please give
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a snack size welcome them to my
very first guess, my dear friend Kitty.
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When I originally planned this episode,
I hope to have kitty here with
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me in the studio today, but
due to social distancing, she will be
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joining us remotely, so let's give
her a call. Hi, Kitty,
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welcome to snacks eyes. Hello,
thank you so much for being my first
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guest. Super Exciting to have you. But those of you who are listening,
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Kitty and I know each other from
a fabulous performing group called the Red
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Hot rascals and reschools. Yes,
we are like a quirky cabaret performing group.
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We've got dancers and magicians and Hula
Hoop artists, all different types of
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things, and we perform all over
the twin cities. So as soon as
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Miss Rona lets us perform again,
we going to be out there doing it.
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So kitting is one of our drag
kings. And also and the show
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that did not happen because of the
virus. You were going to be one
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of our diva's as well. You
and I both wear a lot of different
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hats, so I know that you're
a busy person, I'm a busy person,
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and drag has helped us in all
the aspects of our life, and
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so I want you to start for
talking about your daytoday life and then tell
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us about your different characters and how
you developed them. First off, I'm
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really honored to be your first guest, Lolla, so thank you. Oh,
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of course, I appreciate you.
My name, as you already mentioned,
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is Kitty, and my normal day
job I'm a small business owner of
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an empowerment and fitness event style company. So I do something called rebounding,
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which are these school boots that bounce
and save your joints, and we travel
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around to breweries and do private parties
things like that to bring this new and
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fun fitness thing to people. And
then I'll also, on the flip side
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of that, I do a lot
of entertaining and performing as a character performer
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and I also do to podcasts as
well as I'm a puppy parent of three.
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Yeah, I've three little teddy bears. Little you watch the DIS rule
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my home. How long have you
been performing? Okay, let's see,
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but let's just say two decades.
Oh my goodness, I love performing.
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It really it's it's something that I've
known from a really young age that I
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wanted to do and I just continue
to follow it. So, in terms
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of your character, I know you
have two, which I think is amazing.
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Christopher tracing him bayonet, and how
did you develop those characters? So
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Christopher came first and I had a
lot of friends who were drag kings and
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they actually asked me to start choreographing
some performances for them and as I was
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choreographing these performances, they were finding
out so much about themselves and who they
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were by stepping into these different characters. And from there I almost felt really
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strongly that I too could find deeper, maybe secret pieces of myself by stepping
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into this character that I knew was
a part of me. So Christopher really
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was born due to the fact that
I want to do explore and Rogeny and
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gender fluidity and performing in a different
vibration than I ever had before. I
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think that it's really cool that you
say Androgyny, because one thing you're doing
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that I'm not doing is you have
two personalities. One is Christopher, who
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celebrating Mass Lenity, and then you
have Bayon Net, which is the you
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know, boss diva type personality.
Talk about bayonet a little bit. Sure.
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Bay It is your straight boss,
bish and just a really confident stand
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in her power, speaker truth,
you know it. Just proud of her
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body, proud of who she is, you know, and has really strong
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boundaries, boundaries being you know what
you will and will not accept from people
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and yourself as well. When you
look at both Christopher and bay the male
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that I really step into that energy
is a quiet confidence, like really a
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humble swag. So I'm trying to
flip gender roles all over the place,
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because a quiet nail that is just
energetically connected, in emotionally connected on then,
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on top of that, my female
is just very brash and bold and
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really confident in her sexuality. So
I'm trying to take, you know,
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our normal societal gender roles, if
you will, and create new boxes,
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or not even boxes at all,
like fuck a box, oh, exactly.
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I think as entertainers, especially in
this industry, each of the characters
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that we create starts with our ideas
and and in the way that you know,
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we bring our ideas to life and
they're genuinely our own. Through this
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podcast I want to help other people
whatever ideas they may have, and feel
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like they can bring them to life
as well. When we talked to the
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phone before this podcast, you had
said that each character is like flexing a
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muscle, and that really resonated with
me, that each character brings out different
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things in you and you get to
exercise parts of yourself by being these characters.
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So tell me about each character and
which, I guess, muscle they
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are. So in my day job
I do a lot of coaching. High
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Five fitcom by the way. Shameless
plug. Oh yeah, but with Christopher,
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you know, that silent swag or
that really quiet confidence helps me to
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flex muscles with emotions or with vibrations
rather than with communication or words. So
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that's a muscle. The magnetism,
the self love, all of that stuff,
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all of these are muscles, just
like you would flex B set muscle
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to make it bigger, reflex our
inner talk muscle. We flex our stand
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up for our selves muscle. And
all of these were muscles that I knew
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I craved more connection with you know, those muscles, when you're using them,
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while you're performing, can transfer into
what you do on the daily.
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So you know, as your life
is kitty, before you started performing like
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we're, you struggling with something and
then one day it just completely like change
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for you because you had been performing
absolutely as a business owner, you can't
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say the things you really want to, to stand up for yourself, because
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you don't want the bad reviews,
you don't want the negative, you know,
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vibes. So as a pusiness it's
really hard to stand in your power
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and and create those boundaries, as
as always talking about earlier. But after
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stepping into the role of Christopher,
after stepping into the roll of Bay and
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being in those energies, I then
could almost bring that. For example,
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when someone in my business would would
say something that would be blatant, just
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asinine, I was able to find
the words to stand in my power,
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but I wouldn't shrivel up or I
wouldn't back away from it, or I
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wouldn't run away from confrontation. If
that connects oh absolutely. In the previous
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episode I actually was just talking about
having those healthy boundaries at work and in
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your personal life, and how drag
has given me the confidence to honestly,
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you know, know how I feel, and then be able to speak and
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act on it. That's what I
feel like is such an important part of
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what we do as performers. We
are finding ourselves in ways that I guess
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the rest of the world does it, because we have that freedom to.
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It's that creative that we have to
find ourselves and figure ourselves out. So
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even the parts that we struggle with
were able to become stronger because we are
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we're playing these characters or we're putting
ourselves out there in a different way.
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I think when you're I taught,
I said it is amazing what you will
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learn about yourself by being someone else. It's weird because we're being someone else,
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but we're also being our attentive selves. Thank yourself, secret self.
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Yeah, it's secret self, you
know, the secret self that doesn't always
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come out and day to day,
because you know, society expects this and
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they expect us to be one way, but maybe we actually feel differently.
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So we get to bring that out
in our art and it's such a beautiful
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balance that, once you came that
confidence as a performer, you can just
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easily transfer it to other partying saying
it. So yes, I love that
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you have tapped into that and utilize
that for your business, because it sounds
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like, if you're working in empowerment, that's like a really keyte part of
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it. Well, I'm glad you
brought that up too, because I almost
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reach the level of how do I
empower myself on a deeper level, and
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then I started digging into what you
just mentioned was my secret self, those
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things that I knew were very blatant
about me, but I wasn't living them
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or I wasn't showing them to other
people due to judgments, due to not
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being accepted. But I really enjoy
how you put that. We find out
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so much of ourselves by being someone
else, because you're able to pull out
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authentic pieces of you and be a
character with them for maybe a three minute
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performance. Then you can go back
to what you know exactly. And I
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feel like the more you do it, if you can do it for three
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minutes, you can do it for
five minutes. If you can do it
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for five minutes, you can do
it for an hour, you can do
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it for a whole day and then
it turns into something that becomes for a
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life time and then you level up
exactly. It's all about leveling up.
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And then it's funny that the challenges
as you go as a performer, the
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challenges do you have when you first
started, are not the same challenge as
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you have in your current career,
and you're overcoming those and using drag or
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you know, whatever type of performative
maybe to work through those and it's just
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it's such a growing process that I
hope that the listeners will just allow themselves
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the space to creatively explore themselves.
You know, I don't want everyone to
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feel like they need to hop on
a stage to do this. This is
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something you can do in your daytoday
life, tapping in to the secret self
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and those parts of yourself that are
hard to let out. Just go in
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and let them out, see what
happens and and develop them well, and
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I challenge your listeners to do you
know, create a character and step into
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it for five minutes, ten minutes. I didn't stay. I just didn't
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wake up one day and say,
you know what I'm going to do drag.
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It was a step by step process
of looking really deep, like holding
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the mirror to myself kind of stuff
like what do I really want to do?
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Be In half and then, piece
by piece, you know, stepping
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more into it until you feel comfortable. And most of my characters, La
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La, are my leveling up,
like you can can see the level up
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I've done with the characters I've created. So I will tell you. For
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me, I absolutely just woke up
one day and said I've got to do
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drag. I thought I was revolutionary
heavy. I just know the that I
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was the go beat, the next
big thing, but it turns outs out
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that other people were doing it.
So when you say it's a gradual process,
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talk about how you build the different
parts of your characters. Sure,
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Christopher uses no words to speak,
and that's a that's a skill and to
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be aware of your presence in the
present moment is such a really profound thing
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in a skill. And as I
continued plugging into Christopher a lot more,
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that became an everyday part of my
life where, instead of my usual self
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of Hey, I'm the leader,
to be able to step back and be
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more humble. That just created a
brand new doorway or a brand new possibility
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of what I wanted to become.
And now your other character, bayonet,
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sounds like a newer character, right
correct? Yes, just last year.
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So was there something that was going
on in your life? That said,
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you know, I'm sure that your
work as Christopher Tracy has done a lot
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for you. was there's some point
in life when you said, okay,
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now I need to introduce this new
character. Yes, you know, to
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get really vulnerable and authentic with you. There were things about my sexuality that
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I was searching for and craving more
of. You know, Christopher has the
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silence, swag and the masculine energy, whereas Bay is the sex kitten,
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unapologetically original and just out there with
who she is, and I needed,
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I craved more of that, and
stepping into her helped me to become more
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sexual and aware of that power within
myself too. It's interesting that you say
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that, because one of the things
that drag has helped me with is my
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body image and sexuality. In the
way I kind of you know, always
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knew I was gay, but one
day that okay about the womb, I
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just I knew, I knew,
but when you're black and plus size end
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gay, it's the world will tell
you that you're undesirable and a lot of
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ways and it's not a thing where, like someone will come with you be
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like hey, you're ugly. It's
like you don't see yourself representing to media
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and when you look at beauty ads, you don't see someone that looks like
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you, you know. So when
I was able to transform into this glamorous
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goddess, if I may say so
myself, it really did help me become
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more confident in, you know,
my dating life, in the fact that
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it's like, I know I'm pretty, honey, I know it now.
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I did not see it before,
but and now, like even without all
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of it I was, I feel
so much better about myself. So,
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and what I heard that you just
said was that as you step into this
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drag performer, you were able to
find what your powers were, or what
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powers you had inside of you that
weren't being utilized. So it's almost like
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you find this personal power by stepping
into a character exactly, and it gives
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you the framework for the best version
of not yourself, if that big fit.
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It's it's like it's like it's not
who you are, but it's like
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this is what it could be.
You know, if this is a amper
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amplified, it is too, but
secret self right, and it's the over
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amplified version of you. Now in
my dead day. Like you know,
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you gotta tone it down. You're
extra, just not too extra, just
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not to but I am still retaining
that, that confidence and that are on
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that presence. You know that you're
talking about magnetize them. They yeah,
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yeah, yeah, magnetism or a
magnetizing performer. Okay, so where do
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you see yourself going? And growing
and dragging the future? Definitely growing,
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grow, growing and learning and building. You know, I always approach all
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of my characters in a beginner's mindset, always looking for something to learn.
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And then also I'm in the process
and have just gotten a nonprofit organization started
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called the MIAs project, where it's
going to be a themed Charity Event Company
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which is going to provide another safe
space for performances GAYLA's fundraising events. So
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really, really looking into I want
to support the arts of Minneapolis as well
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as give back in the only way
I know how, which is to perform
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and have fun doing it. So
starting something that's bigger than myself is what
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I'm planning to do with my drag
career soon. And bias is an acronym
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for baby, I'm a star,
Behaby, I'm a star, we're all
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stars, but to just have that
opportunity to to flex that muscle, like
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you just said. So, out
of all the things that you've learned from
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being a performer, being an entrepreneur, what do you think are the greatest
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strengths or things you've learned that are
going to help you achieve these goals?
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I like that question. Thank you. I think just really realizing your energy
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and what you can bring to other
people and being open to receiving that energy
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and connection. I think what I've
learned the most in the performing of these
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characters is that the more you're authentic
with not just yourself but other people,
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the better and more happy and more
bright life is going to be, because
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you're not keeping yourself in the shadows, you're actually shining the light that you
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should have been all along. I
actually was just talking about to Wang Foo
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and the no I just I just
listen to that one. M Yeah,
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so about like larger than life is
just the right size. So I am
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so excited that you have such a
big goal. That's that's amazing to take
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on. are going to hand you
for me right Lalla and see for that.
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Would love to. And you know, I'm so you all heard it
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here first. I'm going to be
empty in baby, I'm a star.
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Yeah, do you want to talk
about like where, where you're at in
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the process? You don't have to
give anything away. You don't want to
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go oh no, not at all. We actually just got accepted for our
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five hundred and one see exempt status. That's coming to fruition a lot more
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quick than I thought, because I
just I said, all right, universe,
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this is what I want, and
he was like, all right,
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cool, you know what, and
that's, honestly, what it's about.
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Not Being a raid to ask.
You know yourself first, but you ask
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yourself what you want and you put
it out there and it's amazing how quick
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things will happen. Like if you
would ask me just a couple months ago
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what I be recording to podcast,
I would have been like, Oh,
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no, I'm just going to do
these shows, you know. But here
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I am, here you are starting
something, and here you are starting something.
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So I really really look forward to
hearing more about this. All right,
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well, thank you for being on
the show. If you want more
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kitty, you can check out her
podcast magic MF is that right? It's
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magic moon face. Yes, magic
MF. Yes, a magic moon faith.
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Kitty. Thank you, Lula.
I appreciate you very very much. I
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will see you all next time.
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